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The Finite and Infinite Games of Leadership:
Leadership, Business and Finding Purpose in the Workplace.

Simon Sinek is the bestselling author of Start With Why and Leaders Eat Last, which have helped organizations around the world inspire their people to reach new heights.

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  1. one thing I like to do is to take a vision and then take it one step deeper.  I like to restate the vision into what does that mean to me and my position.  how do I make the the vision a reality.  If I cant find a way to have it guide me then I think to myself…  how does one do "the vision"

  2. You are correct, Mr. Sinek. This country is obsessed with growth. The world is a pyramid scheme. Once everyone has a refrigerator, what do the refrigerator builders do next? Make them crappier?

  3. The CEO isn't the visionary. He is the executive to the Board of Directors. As the name implies the Board of Directors is there to set the direction, to have the visions and so on.

    The CEO or Executive Director as the position is called in some countries is appointed by the Board of Directors to execute their vision of the company.

  4. Game Theory: The Game of WeiQi/Go has almost limitless possibilities and the Objectives change Constantly,
    The Game of Chess has much more limited Objective and Possibilities.
    The Chinese and Asians already understood Finite and Infinite Games Long ago.

  5. If the leadership rules were understood by the uploader, he won't hack anyone phone to beg for recognition of their faith in Christ. These people they can't differentiate failure and successful.

    I don't agree on a full time housewife is considered failure while a non University graduate is considered failure or loser. Obviously the videos were uploaded to earn the popularity of the YouTuber. My phone has been hacked and forced to watched all these videos for the past few years just because I rejected the faith of Christianity. They choose to hack and humiliate me throughout those years until I finally agree to become a follower of Christ. I was wondering what is the meaning of their life limited the usage of Internet access to introduce the speaker for their popularity. They acted no different from gangsters yet they put themselves in the shoes of savior.

  6. Okay, Okay, Okay. I started watching this video expecting to gain new ideas or perspectives from such a talented and eloquent speaker of leadership issues. Don't get me wrong, I am a new fan of Mr. Sinek, (I just discovered his presentations here in YouTube about one and a half weeks ago. But on this one particularly, in the minute 05:16, I thought, I already know the storyline; about 70% of the Microsoft executives spent about 70% of their time planning and talking about how to beat Apple and in his talk to Apple people, is just the opposite, then about Microsoft giving him a Zune player. He have used the same anecdote at least 5 or six times (different videos) that I can remember.

  7. I like the presentation and premise behind it, but Simon is seriously wrong at 5:00.
    No company went bankrupt because they "gave up".
    They were literally killed, bled out, lost the means to fight.
    Military equivalent of facing superior enemy while running out of ammo.

    That has nothing to do with leaving the game (say poker table).
    Going bankrupt is literally losing a proper, hot war, getting killed or taken prisoner.

    Bankruptcy is literally death of the company. How can you consider that "leaving the game"?!

    Am I getting something wrong (and if yes, what)?

  8. After watching this I realized that the same concepts exist in marriage. My wife tends to focuses on the vision of the future and the values we hold as a family. I tend to focus on the operational aspect of keeping the household afloat making sure we are viable.
    If I believe her vision and values are starting to impact the ability to keep it the household afloat I tend to migrate more and more into the operational aspect of running the house, and that in turn pushes her to focus on the vision and values of the household.
    Since we don't have a board of directors we don't have someone pushing one way or the other so it stays balanced between us– each helping to keep the other in check most of the time. But in a company often the balance between these two positions is upset due to external influences or pressures.

  9. I think some stuff he is talking about is wrong. Dynamic is very important, even the biggest companies are researching smaller ones for innovations and there are some things about game theory he is talking about I do absolute not agree (I work with game theory since about 10 years or so now). The only thing that impressed me was the idea that a company leader should act infinite. Finally, the best plan is pure nonsense if you interact with people because they are acting in a way they are mentally programmed. If you have a good move on your strategy plan, that does not neccessary mean that your plan is being realized because of fear, trouble, blockers and other stuff. .. game theory can be very dynamic if you know exactly the right formula when to change or how to mix your strategy.

  10. question.! Can we try something? Take one Bot name it P1(u&i) its sole purpose is to learn and seek P2(i.e. goal, love, answers to life….)so> [p1 find p2] > if p1 finds p2=?…got me so far? Now, take a game like #nomanssky and place each at diffrent points. If you dont know what no man's sky is, it's a game that's "vertually" infinite. Much like Minecraft. I wanna know what happens. Oh, and if ? then #babies! That should cover the cause and effect portion of the infinite loop, and the baby for the trifecta!

  11. Great presentation but a tough crowd. However the first guy was a reealist. I work in the construction industry and people dont care about people only getting the project done on time.

  12. I wish the first questioner had been asked what he really means when he says "the small, scrappy company can't afford to miss their numbers…" Small companies might not be able to pay their bills, they might not make rent and get kicked out of their space, but the only reason someone loses a job for "missing numbers" is because of the finite game's arbitrary goals Sinek talks about. The questioner cannot resolve the difference between finite and infinite because his mindset is completely stuck in "finite" — it's difficult to imagine there is any other way to operate. "Missing numbers" results in "shareholder dissatisfaction" results in "board meetings" and the loss of a job. But the company may have done extremely well! They just "missed their numbers." THIS is what Sinek is arguing against — the companies who are focused more on their values, that have values well-integrated with their surrounding culture and society, will outlast those who are making up "numbers" that can be "missed."

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